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Red_Dragon
03-28-2004, 08:57 AM
I was looking for an automatic transmission that would fit my 152. I read that some of the 196's in SII's had auto's and that they would fit the 152, but the 196 in the SII isn't angled 15* like the 152 is in the Scout 80.
Were any auto's made that would fit the 80/800 4cyl? Will the auto from a mail Scout work with a transfer case (either -18 or -20, I have em both)? Finally, will an auto tranny from a SII work in a Scout 80, if it is at an angle, or will that cause fluid problems?

Any help appreciated,
-J

bogs65
01-21-2013, 11:53 AM
Was wondering about this too. My wife wants an auto trans in her scout 80.

Bill usn-1
01-21-2013, 01:39 PM
The standard 727 from any IH SV will bolt up. But you need the flexplate.

To prevent any fluid issues you can go with the later/deeper 46/47rh/re trans pan with the 727 extended pickup. it also uses a reuseable gasket.

I run these on mine for offroading.
You can get them on ebay but you need the 727 filter extention to go with the pan.

If you go with the cable shifter like the scoutII then that won't be an issue.
The kickdown from a 196 SII would work or get a lokar setup.

Now the issue will be the clocking of the TC on a 4WD. Without a body lift the TC will probably be into the floor board with the 152 tilt.
One work around would be to change the output shaft like I did in a write up here, and go with the jeep D300TC. They are more plentiful and you can buy a clocking ring off ebay to rotate it back into the correct position.

Or go with a 2wd trans and squeeze a divorced TC in there.

You will need to make a new trans mount adapter since it will be angled also.

But it's all doable and mostly bolt together with the correct parts selection.

Tres
01-21-2013, 02:29 PM
Bill,

Wouldn't this be kind of a dog? The 152 doesn't have a ton of power to begin with and with a 727 robbing more power out of it, it sure wouldn't seem logical to run that combination. I would think a 196 would be a better candidate for this. What are your thoughts?

Bill usn-1
01-21-2013, 07:40 PM
I was just answering the question. not trying to give an opinion.
The performance would probably be about like the SD33na.
The 196 would be better. probably like a SD33T.
Carl and Dan had put together "Rock scout" with the 196 and 727 for rock crawling competition.
One thing is the 4 cyl works better with the stock or mild cam. Try to go bigger and you lose the bottom end and still don't have much top end.

I like the 727 and with a shift kit works good.
But if I had my choice and the funds...a 700r4 or 4l60 would be better with the lockup converter and lower 1st and an OD.

CSmith
01-21-2013, 08:21 PM
I had a Scout II with a 196 and a 727. It was horribly gutless and a gas hog. I can't imagine how terrible a 152/727 would be but I guarantee you wouldn't be happy with it.

Tres
01-22-2013, 04:40 AM
But if I had my choice and the funds...a 700r4 or 4l60 would be better with the lockup converter and lower 1st and an OD.

Agreed, that would be a far better option.

CSmith
01-22-2013, 06:56 AM
Agreed, that would be a far better option.

Especially with a 4.3 v6 in front of it.

Bill usn-1
01-22-2013, 10:19 AM
And then put a jeep emblem on the front of it.

Tres
01-22-2013, 10:32 AM
And make everything in it out of plastic. I think you guys are onto something here. :lol: