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Old 07-23-2011
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Power Steering Box Exploded view

Anyone have an exploded view of the power steering box from a Scout II?

Would like to see it while taking apart and resealing.
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Re: Power Steering Box Exploded view

Here are a few pics when I did mine. Numbers 175 thru 179.
https://picasaweb.google.com/OLDHARV...10576283106274

And a few attached pics as well.

For some very good pics and write-up check out this thread on pirate4X4
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=570869
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Re: Power Steering Box Exploded view

Thanks!

I read through the write up on Pirate. Looks like a chevy Saganaw box but differant mounts for scout.

Mine has no output shaft play or input shaft play and just a tiny bit of free play turning input shaft. So no loose shafts that would make it a hard rebuild, came from working power steering Scout II just had a small leak at input shaft from steering colunm.

Did yours come out OK? I know it gets complicated if you take that one part, apart that has all the balls in it as they are differant sizes and have to go in right order.

Was that kit I see in your photos just seals or did it have bearings too?
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Re: Power Steering Box Exploded view

Yes, the kit had bearings in it, IIRC. I had a PS unit from a junked GrandWagoneer that I first disassembled to familiarize myself with. I've never been a gearhead, but I got the job done. Getting the different colored ball bearings in was a little tedious. Hardest part for me was getting that part positioned correctly with the output shaft. One thing you don't want to do is take out the little part that looks like an intake/exhaust engine valve. See pics.
You might get away with only steering input seal and loading up the big valve(one with blue teflon rings/seals) a little more. And the output(sector?) shaft adjustment. I don't understand everything I know about these PS units tho. I'm satisfied with the job. No leaks and works good
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Re: Power Steering Box Exploded view

Well I found some cheap prices on Rock Auto for rebuilt Power Steering gears. Wasted over $50. shipping here and return shipping the wrong boxx back. They still have the wrong boxs listed on their website for 73. Actully the box they sent me was for a chevy and maybe others and was never installed in any scout! I informed them of the mistakes, gave them all correct information and they still will not refund shipping charges and still have wrong box listed! What a waste of time and money.

Since this box is so tight I think I'll just find a rebuild kit like I first planned! It came from a member here and said to work perfectly, just leaked.

PS Rock Auto Sucks!
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Re: Power Steering Box Exploded view

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Re: Power Steering Box Exploded view

Sweet! Thanks Jesse!

Just to add some tech here our steering gear for Scout II is so very common! Except the case it's in to fit our scouts. The mechanism inside is the same saganaw PS unit used on many vehicles!
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Re: Power Steering Box Exploded view

no worries,

i found it on this or another board and saved it,
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Re: Power Steering Box Exploded view

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Sweet! Thanks Jesse!

Just to add some tech here our steering gear for Scout II is so very common! Except the case it's in to fit our scouts. The mechanism inside is the same saganaw PS unit used on many vehicles!
Mark got any list? I have a Scout box with a messed up piston and worm drive. If I know what make/model/year's to get at PnP that would make it 10x easier to buy the right box.
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Re: Power Steering Box Exploded view

While on the subject, an IH parts supplier has three boxes listed:

'71-'76 Scout II - #481582C91RB
'77-'79 Scout II - #500122C91RB
'80 Scout II - ##507992C91RB

I was planning a PS conversion from a '77 into a '72 and until I saw these, assumed it would be "bolt in". Does anyone know what is the difference?
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Re: Power Steering Box Exploded view

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While on the subject, an IH parts supplier has three boxes listed:

'71-'76 Scout II - #481582C91RB
'77-'79 Scout II - #500122C91RB
'80 Scout II - ##507992C91RB

I was planning a PS conversion from a '77 into a '72 and until I saw these, assumed it would be "bolt in". Does anyone know what is the difference?
The input shaft size is different.
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Re: Power Steering Box Exploded view

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While on the subject, an IH parts supplier has three boxes listed:

'71-'76 Scout II - #481582C91RB 13/16 36 spline input w/flare connection
'77-'79 Scout II - #500122C91RB 3/4 30 spline input w/flare connection
'80 Scout II - ##507992C91RB 3/4 30 spline input w/o-ring connection

I was planning a PS conversion from a '77 into a '72 and until I saw these, assumed it would be "bolt in". Does anyone know what is the difference?
I updated your post with the differences.
You can get Borgeson Steering Joint for Scout II to use either input size.
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Re: Power Steering Box Exploded view

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Well I found some cheap prices on Rock Auto for rebuilt Power Steering gears. Wasted over $50. shipping here and return shipping the wrong boxx back. They still have the wrong boxs listed on their website for 73. Actully the box they sent me was for a chevy and maybe others and was never installed in any scout! I informed them of the mistakes, gave them all correct information and they still will not refund shipping charges and still have wrong box listed! What a waste of time and money.

PS Rock Auto Sucks!
I'd send a little message to the Better Business Bureau. They can apply "dope slaps" with a slightly bigger hand than one guy.
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