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    or something like that. Anyway in this months Hot Rod (june 03) there is a good article about tuning your EFI. I have read though it twice and I am still kinda lost. The whole tuning thing is still a little over my head. I think once I get into the actual live data side of the EFI it will become a little more clear. Hope someone can get something from the article. I plan on saving it for later reference when needed. Thanks again everyone!!!!
    My "Disasterpiece"
    1970 800A 4X4,HFI'd,304,B/W,27,44,3:73,28's.
    The rest are in my 25 year plan!

    My "Ruedh"
    FREE 1972 1110 4x4,V8(?)727,205,44 drum/60/3.54's,small cheap tires.
    LOOOOADS-O-RUST!! Donor body located. Not!! JY owner played the "crusher value" card. : angry:
    NON-working rear window. Need info!!!

    www.northtexasbinders.com

  • #2
    Thanks,
    I'll check it out.

    What's your hold up on your install?
    time?
    parts?
    Bill USN-1

    COMMITED TO TEACHING PEOPLE THE "PROPER" WAY TO EFI
    HAMILTON FUEL INJECTION
    May be the answer to all your fuel injection needs!
    Learn to do it right.

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    • #3
      Bill

      Time (house thats unfinished, I hear you can relate also)

      Parts (only need a couple more things including pump and now some larger fuel lines and o2 sensor.

      And you forgot one, but it goes along with the time issue.........$.
      I own a money pit.

      Have finished up a few needed things so should have a little extra time to tinker. I need to be building my shop as I have all the materials, but what a storm that would create with the wife as her house is not finished. Thanks for listening to my sob story!! But I am a Blessed man, as it could be a LOT worse. Thanks for the patience so far!!
      My "Disasterpiece"
      1970 800A 4X4,HFI'd,304,B/W,27,44,3:73,28's.
      The rest are in my 25 year plan!

      My "Ruedh"
      FREE 1972 1110 4x4,V8(?)727,205,44 drum/60/3.54's,small cheap tires.
      LOOOOADS-O-RUST!! Donor body located. Not!! JY owner played the "crusher value" card. : angry:
      NON-working rear window. Need info!!!

      www.northtexasbinders.com

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      • #4
        Well...I'm "pacing" myself on my house. Since I only live somewhere 3 years at a time, each house is like a 3 yr investment. I'm at 1 yr now so 2 more to go.

        How far are you from me?
        Bill USN-1

        COMMITED TO TEACHING PEOPLE THE "PROPER" WAY TO EFI
        HAMILTON FUEL INJECTION
        May be the answer to all your fuel injection needs!
        Learn to do it right.

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        • #5
          Binderman, tell your wife how fast and easy it would be to finish the house if you had a shop to work out of?

          When we bought our five acres in AZ that was the first thing that went up. It really did help as we were 15 miles from town.

          I'll race ya on who gets their fuel injection done first?
          I am real close!
          [CENTER]1994 Buick RoadMaSSter Estate Wagon LT1/4L60E. White and Woodgrain Sleeper...PCM 16188051 With SS/V4P/Custom Tune! WOT 12.9 AFR!

          1990 Chevy Suburban Silverado 5.7L 2wd ECM 1227747 HiWay Lean Cruise 18.5 MPG and 12.5 to 1 AFR at WOT!

          1972 IH 1210 Isky Cammed Balenced 345 4 speed PCM 16197427 Project!

          [SIZE=3][B][URL="http://www.gearhead-efi.com/"]GearHead-EFI.com[/URL] EFI Conversions and Chip Tuners![/B][/SIZE]
          [B]May be all you need to know about EFI![/B]

          and I still help local JustIH members (for fun) free! :cool: [/CENTER]

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          • #6
            Bill
            >Well...I'm "pacing" myself on my house. Since I only live >somewhere 3 years at a time, each house is like a 3 yr >investment. I'm at 1 yr now so 2 more to go.

            I guess i am pacing also, just a slooooooooooower pace!
            Guess I better hurry up as I only have two years before you move on. Dang there will be a lot of sad pups if/when that happens.

            >How far are you from me?

            About three hours west if you live in dallas. 75 miles west of Wichita Falls.

            >Binderman, tell your wife how fast and easy it would be to finish >the house if you had a shop to work out of?

            Then I would have to sleep in it.

            >I'll race ya on who gets their fuel injection done first?
            >I am real close!

            How far along are you? My harness is still in a five gallon bucket in garage. TB is in pieces. When I say I scrounged my parts a piece at a time I mean literally a piece at a time. Your FI is on a scoutII correct? I think I may be the first to do a 800 on this site, so still have braggin rights (better hurry up or that too will dissapear). Maybe if we start a race it will get us both off our tails. Still trying to figure out where to cut a hole in my 800 to run the harness through. Have about decided to use the hole above column where clutch cable went through as mine is automatic. Trying to keep it a close to original as possible, minus bolt on/off items. It will mainly be a road scout! Have located a beater for 200 that i may buy, to do all the major mods on like RS, spring over, etc for a trail rig. At the rate I am going it will be about 10 years. Thanks guys!! Wish me luck and lots of free time!!
            My "Disasterpiece"
            1970 800A 4X4,HFI'd,304,B/W,27,44,3:73,28's.
            The rest are in my 25 year plan!

            My "Ruedh"
            FREE 1972 1110 4x4,V8(?)727,205,44 drum/60/3.54's,small cheap tires.
            LOOOOADS-O-RUST!! Donor body located. Not!! JY owner played the "crusher value" card. : angry:
            NON-working rear window. Need info!!!

            www.northtexasbinders.com

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            • #7
              I put the hole by the original connectors on a scout II.
              I wanted to put the ecm in the glove box so it made it a straight shot.
              All of the harnesses I have pulled were from the pass side from the factory.

              3 hours is a little far to drop by after work!!!!
              Bill USN-1

              COMMITED TO TEACHING PEOPLE THE "PROPER" WAY TO EFI
              HAMILTON FUEL INJECTION
              May be the answer to all your fuel injection needs!
              Learn to do it right.

              Comment


              • #8
                You need to send the wife shopping for the day, then you can finish in peace. I spent about 12 hours on the install, but 16 in total time. At points during the install I had both the boys (4 years and 18 months). Usually I stick them in the Scout, buys me about 15 minutes at a time.

                My point, get moving, I need some others experiences to learn from. Other then the return leak I'm into the tuning phase.

                I've driven to the gas station and back, no incident, and around the block a couple of times, since the first test drive. I don't like the way the throttle feels (too much pressure) and the way it comes off throttle, both a result of the return spring.

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                • #9
                  Send the wife off so I can get started would be more like it. Really truth be known I guess I have been lazy. Need to take a few irons out of the fire and concentrate on one at a time. Thats my story and I am stickin to it. Need a couple rainy days but being in Texas they are few and far between.

                  Bill Thanks for the offer anyway. Kinda like me running down to Gilmer for a weekend of wheelin with yall, little far. Nocona was about right being two hours away. Hope I can make one of your wrenching parties some day.

                  Will dig into it some day!! Wish yall luck with yours!!
                  My "Disasterpiece"
                  1970 800A 4X4,HFI'd,304,B/W,27,44,3:73,28's.
                  The rest are in my 25 year plan!

                  My "Ruedh"
                  FREE 1972 1110 4x4,V8(?)727,205,44 drum/60/3.54's,small cheap tires.
                  LOOOOADS-O-RUST!! Donor body located. Not!! JY owner played the "crusher value" card. : angry:
                  NON-working rear window. Need info!!!

                  www.northtexasbinders.com

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                  • #10
                    Getting used to it

                    Been driving the SII with the new TBI for a couple of days now. I'm still learning how to tweek it. I'm not sure if it needs a different chip in it or not.
                    The thing runs a ton better than it did with the old carb, irregardless. A lot more power & better fuel usage.
                    The throttle cable is sticky on my rig and it makes it hard to accelerate smoothly, sometimes it hesitates & sputters if I hit it too hard when I try to force the pedal down and it lets go all of a sudden. Other times it'll burn the tires it takes off so hard.
                    Going down a back road heading to the barn 2 days ago, my son & I came up behind a tractor and when I went to pass it dropped back into passing gear & just about leaped in the air it took off so hard. My son looked at me all big eyed and said; it never did that before.
                    It's still running off the original fuel line & using the cannister return, but those will be changed this weekend when we can take it to the garage & put it up on a lift. Once that's done I will be able to eliminate that as a possible cause of irregular performance.
                    Does anyone know where to get a new throttle cable?
                    Thanks. Mike

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                    • #11
                      Super Scout Specialists has throttle cables, but are you sure that's the cause?
                      Take a look at the accelerator pedal at the pivot point and inspect front and rear.
                      Glad to see your running, I am still almost done...
                      [CENTER]1994 Buick RoadMaSSter Estate Wagon LT1/4L60E. White and Woodgrain Sleeper...PCM 16188051 With SS/V4P/Custom Tune! WOT 12.9 AFR!

                      1990 Chevy Suburban Silverado 5.7L 2wd ECM 1227747 HiWay Lean Cruise 18.5 MPG and 12.5 to 1 AFR at WOT!

                      1972 IH 1210 Isky Cammed Balenced 345 4 speed PCM 16197427 Project!

                      [SIZE=3][B][URL="http://www.gearhead-efi.com/"]GearHead-EFI.com[/URL] EFI Conversions and Chip Tuners![/B][/SIZE]
                      [B]May be all you need to know about EFI![/B]

                      and I still help local JustIH members (for fun) free! :cool: [/CENTER]

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                      • #12
                        vaquereiner,

                        What parts are you running,
                        ECM, Chip, Injectors?

                        Did you build a cable to monitor the engine yet?
                        Bill USN-1

                        COMMITED TO TEACHING PEOPLE THE "PROPER" WAY TO EFI
                        HAMILTON FUEL INJECTION
                        May be the answer to all your fuel injection needs!
                        Learn to do it right.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          I have one (untested) that I can loan him as I probly will not need it for some time LOL. I do plan to use it at work on my busses soon, if I don't ruin my laptop while trying (again its untested). I to am curious about Vaquereiners setup? When I leave work I may go raise the hood on the Blue Goose and just look. Thats progress is it not? Wish yall luck!!!
                          My "Disasterpiece"
                          1970 800A 4X4,HFI'd,304,B/W,27,44,3:73,28's.
                          The rest are in my 25 year plan!

                          My "Ruedh"
                          FREE 1972 1110 4x4,V8(?)727,205,44 drum/60/3.54's,small cheap tires.
                          LOOOOADS-O-RUST!! Donor body located. Not!! JY owner played the "crusher value" card. : angry:
                          NON-working rear window. Need info!!!

                          www.northtexasbinders.com

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Eagle-Mark
                            Super Scout Specialists has throttle cables, but are you sure that's the cause?
                            Take a look at the accelerator pedal at the pivot point and inspect front and rear.
                            Glad to see your running, I am still almost done...
                            We already fixed that problem. I think the pedal started to break from working to hard to move the cable.
                            Thanks. I hope you're as happy with your results as I am so far.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bill usn-1
                              vaquereiner,

                              What parts are you running,
                              ECM, Chip, Injectors?

                              Did you build a cable to monitor the engine yet?
                              I bought this unit from a guy that got it new to put on a 360 AMC in a wagoneer. It's a holley pro-jection 670 cfm, new in ' 93. I can't find anything that tells me exactly what ECM, chip & injectors are in it.
                              There is a list of service part #s for ECU, injectors, TPS, ect. if that would tell somebody what they were.

                              Confession time. I haven't got a clue about what alot of this stuff means(yet). The guy that did all the real work is top mechanic for major dealership, although he did let me hold the wrenches & light.
                              I assume the cable you're talking about is to hook to a laptop like I see you guys refering to, but I don't have anything like that. Or know whats involved.

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